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BARBAROSSA! Jun 22 06 3:12 AM George Armstrong Custer
   Re: BARBAROSSA! Jun 22 06 3:41 AM sorenmk2
      Re: BARBAROSSA! Jun 22 06 8:52 AM GazzaLND
         Re: BARBAROSSA! Jun 22 06 2:46 PM OzmundeI
            The Russians were better soldiers Jun 22 06 11:26 PM Unregistered(d)
               The Russians were better soldiers Jun 23 06 3:52 AM sorenmk2
                  Re: The Russians were better soldiers Jun 23 06 5:00 AM AJV2
                     Re: The Russians were better soldiers Jun 23 06 5:19 AM Kevin Baird
                        Re: The Russians were better soldiers Jun 23 06 4:37 PM sorenmk2
                  The Russians were better soldiers Jun 23 06 5:15 AM Kevin Baird
                     The German Army's record in the 20th Jun 24 06 1:56 PM Unregistered(d)
                        Re: The German Army's record in the 20th Jun 24 06 3:41 PM sorenmk2
                           Were they skeletons when Stalingrad began? Jun 25 06 10:31 AM Unregistered(d)
                              Were they skeletons when Stalingrad began? Jun 25 06 12:43 PM sorenmk2
                                 I dunno; driving a salient 200 miles Jul 2 06 2:55 PM Unregistered(d)
                                    Re: I dunno; driving a salient 200 miles Jul 2 06 3:51 PM sorenmk2
                                       Is it "soldierly" to outrun one's Jul 2 06 8:24 PM Unregistered(d)
                                          Re: Is it "soldierly" to outrun one's Jul 3 06 2:52 PM sorenmk2
                                             Patton, of course, did not do so at a point Jul 3 06 9:19 PM Unregistered(d)
                                                Ahem.... Jul 4 06 7:56 AM sorenmk2
                                                   LOL...I think Martin Van Crevald covered Jul 4 06 10:37 AM Unregistered(d)
                                       Re: The Resiliance of the Lanser Jul 3 06 3:15 PM OzmundeI
                                          So if the FilAmericans did the same on Jul 3 06 9:27 PM Unregistered(d)
                                             Re: Why the Germans are better Jul 4 06 7:38 AM OzmundeI
                                                But is that admirable or simply Jul 4 06 10:44 AM Unregistered(d)
                                                   Re: But is that admirable or simply Jul 4 06 5:17 PM sorenmk2
                                                      No, but the thing is, I don't see that the Jul 4 06 10:24 PM Unregistered(d)
                                                         Re: No, but the thing is, I don't see that the Jul 5 06 2:10 PM sorenmk2
                                                            YAQW Jul 8 06 9:16 AM Unregistered(d)
                                             Re: So if the FilAmericans did the same on Jul 4 06 7:51 AM George Armstrong Custer
                                                Re: So if the FilAmericans did the same on Jul 4 06 7:54 AM George Armstrong Custer
                                                Re: So if the FilAmericans did the same on Jul 4 06 8:12 AM sorenmk2
                                                   I've read Bryants' books as well; Jul 4 06 10:55 AM Unregistered(d)
                                                      Re: I've read Bryants' books as well; Jul 4 06 5:21 PM sorenmk2
                                                         What did they "get" that the US didn't Jul 4 06 10:28 PM Unregistered(d)
                                                            Re: What did they "get" that the US didn't Jul 5 06 2:28 PM sorenmk2
                                                               FDR, Stimson, Knox, Marshall, Stark Jul 8 06 9:13 AM Unregistered(d)
                                                                  Re: FDR, Stimson, Knox, Marshall, Stark Jul 8 06 6:16 PM sorenmk2
                                                                     Marshall and King were Anglophiles? Jul 8 06 6:31 PM Unregistered(d)
                                                                        Re: Marshall and King were Anglophiles? Jul 8 06 6:56 PM sorenmk2
                                                                           In think the question of whether Jul 10 06 12:08 PM Unregistered(d)
                                                                              Re: In think the question of whether Jul 10 06 2:02 PM sorenmk2
                                                                                 Re: NAZI Germany vs Soviet Russia Jul 10 06 2:37 PM OzmundeI
                                                                                    Re: NAZI Germany vs Soviet Russia Jul 10 06 8:03 PM sorenmk2
                                                                                 Yet the same could have been said Jul 11 06 3:10 AM Unregistered(d)
                                                                                    Re: Yet the same could have been said Jul 11 06 1:44 PM sorenmk2
                                                                                       Re: Hitler Jul 11 06 1:50 PM OzmundeI
                                                                                          Re: Hitler Jul 11 06 7:38 PM sorenmk2
                                                Is suicidal stoicism a military virtue? Jul 4 06 10:48 AM Unregistered(d)
                                                   Re: The Japanese Jul 4 06 1:44 PM OzmundeI
                                                      How deep did the IJA get into India? Jul 4 06 10:35 PM Unregistered(d)
                                                   Re: Is suicidal stoicism a military virtue? Jul 4 06 5:27 PM sorenmk2
                                                      I dunno; it was the most Westernized Jul 4 06 10:40 PM Unregistered(d)
                                                         Re: I dunno; it was the most Westernized Jul 5 06 2:40 PM sorenmk2
                                                            Put it this way: Jul 8 06 9:20 AM Unregistered(d)
                                                               Re: Put it this way: Jul 8 06 3:54 PM sorenmk2
                                                                  Re: Chinese Republican Army Jul 8 06 4:15 PM OzmundeI
                                                                  Col. Tsuji in the West? Jul 8 06 5:09 PM Unregistered(d)
                                                                     Re: Col. Tsuji in the West? Jul 8 06 6:14 PM sorenmk2
                                                                        That's fair; I was seeing Skorzeny as Jul 8 06 6:45 PM Unregistered(d)
                                                                           Re: That's fair; I was seeing Skorzeny as Jul 8 06 6:53 PM sorenmk2
                                                      Re: Japanese Military Jul 5 06 12:55 PM OzmundeI
                                                         Re: Japanese Military Jul 5 06 4:01 PM sorenmk2
                                 Re: Were they skeletons when Stalingrad began? Jul 2 06 4:19 PM AJV2
                                    Re: Were they skeletons when Stalingrad began? Jul 2 06 4:34 PM sorenmk2
                                       Re: Were they skeletons when Stalingrad began? Jul 2 06 5:39 PM AJV2
                           Re: The German Army's record in the 20th Jul 4 06 8:04 PM Pigroot
                              I'd argue the French Army's place in Jul 4 06 10:43 PM Unregistered(d)
      Re: BARBAROSSA! Jun 23 06 3:04 PM OzmundeI
         Re: BARBAROSSA! Jun 24 06 2:23 AM Pete Peru
            That's part of my argument Jun 24 06 3:05 AM sorenmk2
               Re: That's part of my argument Jun 24 06 10:37 AM Pete Peru
                  Re: That's part of my argument Jun 24 06 11:53 AM sorenmk2
                     Re: That's part of my argument Jun 24 06 12:59 PM Pete Peru
                        Re: That's part of my argument Jun 24 06 1:26 PM sorenmk2
                           Re: That's part of my argument Jun 24 06 1:55 PM Pete Peru
                              Re: That's part of my argument Jun 24 06 3:16 PM sorenmk2
                                 Re: That's part of my argument Jun 24 06 4:33 PM Ken Rose
                                    Re: That's part of my argument Jun 24 06 5:01 PM OzmundeI
                                       Re: That's part of my argument Jun 24 06 5:45 PM sorenmk2
                                          Re: That's part of my argument Jun 25 06 4:21 AM Pete Peru
                                             Re: That's part of my argument Jun 25 06 4:40 AM sorenmk2
                                                Re: Soviet Prowess in War Jun 25 06 6:28 AM OzmundeI
                                                   Re: Soviet Prowess in War Jun 25 06 10:20 AM Pete Peru
                                                      Re: Soviet Prowess in War Jun 25 06 12:47 PM sorenmk2
                                                         Re: Soviet Prowess in War Jun 25 06 1:32 PM George Armstrong Custer
                                                            Re: Soviet Prowess in War Jun 25 06 1:53 PM sorenmk2
                                                   Oz - I'd suggest the British, French, and Jun 25 06 10:40 AM Unregistered(d)
                                                      Re: Oz - I'd suggest the British, French, and Jun 25 06 2:24 PM OzmundeI
                                                         Re: Oz - I'd suggest the British, French, and Jun 28 06 9:27 PM Pigroot
                                                            Re: Oz - I'd suggest the British, French, and Jun 29 06 3:57 AM sorenmk2
                                                               Re: Oz - I'd suggest the British, French, and Jun 29 06 6:02 PM Pigroot
                                                               Max Hastings on the Prowess of German Soldiers Jun 30 06 11:52 AM Kevin Baird
                                                                  Re: Max Hastings on the Prowess of German Soldiers Jun 30 06 7:07 PM Pigroot
                                                                  Max Hastings on the Prowess of German Soldiers Jul 1 06 4:20 AM sorenmk2
                                                                     The strategic situation is what made the Jul 2 06 3:15 PM Unregistered(d)
                                                                        Re: The strategic situation is what made the Jul 2 06 4:00 PM sorenmk2
                                                                           I disagree (surprising, eh?); I'd put Jul 2 06 8:31 PM Unregistered(d)
                                                               The Ardennes certainly showed that Jul 2 06 3:04 PM Unregistered(d)
                                                                  Re: The Ardennes certainly showed that Jul 2 06 4:18 PM sorenmk2
                                                                     I'll make a point of it the next Jul 2 06 8:33 PM Unregistered(d)
                                                                        Re: Relics of the War Jul 3 06 3:33 PM OzmundeI
                                                                           Re: Relics of the War Jul 3 06 4:49 PM Pigroot
         Re: BARBAROSSA! Jun 25 06 1:41 PM George Armstrong Custer
            Its worse than we admit... Jun 25 06 3:08 PM sorenmk2
               Re: Its worse than we admit... Jun 26 06 8:42 AM Pete Peru
                  Re: Its worse than we admit... Jun 26 06 1:55 PM OzmundeI